Mike Grosso Talks Major Speed Bumps On The Road To Publication

I'm lucky (or cunning) enough to have lured yet another successful writer over to my blog for an SAT- Successful Author Talk. SAT authors have conquered the query, slain the synopsis and attained the pinnacle of published. How'd they do it? Let's ask 'em!

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Today's guest for the SAT (Successful Author Talk) is Mike Grosso, author of I AM DRUMS, which is his MG debut, releasing TODAY from Clarion Books.  Mike is a musician and a fourth-grade teacher who always keeps a guitar in his classroom. His father gave him his first lesson, and his mom taught him how to keep a steady rhythm. Mike continues to write and record music at his home in Oak Park, Illinois, where he lives with his wife, son, and a drum set he plays much too loud.

You’ve had some major speed bumps along with the milestones to publication. What can you tell us about that?

One of the worst things that can happen to a debut author is not being a debut author anymore. My first thought when Egmont USA closed its doors overnight, orphaning I AM DRUMS, was that the universe was correcting itself. My book deal was a freak accident, so it made sense that it would vanish because I was out of my league in the first place.

I was astounded and grateful when it ended up selling the second time around to Houghton Mifflin Harcourt at auction. My agent and I joked that the second time’s the charm!

Are you a Planner or Pantster?

I’m a pantser who writes occasional notes. I have ideas for how things will play out, but I’m always forcing it when I outline. I spend too much time planning, getting angry, and throwing out ideas before I’ve properly explored them. If I play around with a book’s voice, I usually get a clearer sense of where the plot’s going.

How long does it typically take you to write a novel, start to finish?

It varies quite a bit depending on the toll of the story and the current level of insanity in my teaching and parenting life. The first draft of I AM DRUMS was written in a few months, but I just finished a recent first draft that took a little over a year. And finishing the first draft does not mean you are done. Not by far.

Do you work on one project at a time, or are you a multi-tasker?

I try to work on one thing at a time, but multiple projects are always competing for my full attention. I have a tendency to tackle whatever’s working at a given moment.

Did you have to overcome any fears that first time you sat down to write?

Multiple ones: Is this a waste of time? (It isn’t) Do I actually remember any of those silly grammar rules? (I did, and still do) Are people going to read this and make fun of me? (Perhaps, but who cares? And people make fun of me anyway.)

I think the big fear, though, the one that almost ruined me, was “Who died and made my words important?” (Nobody did, but I’m going to write anyway because I love it and it’s cheaper than a canvas and art supplies)

How many trunked books did you have before you were agented?

Four, and for good reason. Three are awful, and the fourth needs a lot of TLC before it can see the light of day.

Have you ever quit on an ms, and how did you know it was time?

I’ve quit on quite a few short stories when I was trying to write like someone I was not. I’d never quit on a big ms, though, until recently when a great idea wasn’t coming out right. I was 20k words into it when I finally admitted that most of it was garbage and set it aside. I switched to something that wanted to be written instead, and just recently went back to that terribly executed, great idea. It’s working a lot better now!

Who is your agent and how did you get that "Yes!" out of them?  

Eddie Schneider is my amazing agent, and I landed him through the traditional query process. He called me a few months after requesting a full ms and gave me some helpful suggestions. I revised and resubmitted and got “The Call” a few months later.

I didn’t know at the time that he would have to sell my book twice when my first publisher disappeared into thin air. In hindsight, agents are amazing advocates, and I’m glad I didn’t attempt this crazy debut author thing on my own.

How long did you query before landing your agent?  

Querying four books without landing an agent taught me to target my queries. I sent out only 23 queries for I AM DRUMS, and I had a good reason for each one. This is drastically reduced from the 100+ I sent out for my awful first book, an unpublished fantasy that should be locked in a box and thrown into Lake Michigan.

Any advice to aspiring writers out there on conquering query hell?

Always be working on something new. It makes waiting for the next rejection letter a little less terrible. I avoided the dumps by having a new project ready before giving up on the previous one. If you have something new to submit, you will still have hope!

here isn’t a magic word count, genre, or method. The publishing industry has its issues, but agents, editors, and other publishing folks are cool people who love books. They want to fall in love with your writing, but it makes statistical sense that in most cases they won’t. When someone finally does, they will be your first real advocate!

Look ahead to the next query and the next book. Keep honing your craft and sending out your best stuff.

How did it feel the first time you saw your book for sale?

Relieved! Egmont USA closed its doors and cancelled I AM DRUMS’s release when I already had ARCs in my hand, so I didn’t think I’d make it to the finish line until I saw the Clarion Books edition available for preorder.

How much input do you have on cover art?

My editor flashed it by me at different stages in development to get my thoughts. It was really cool, because she didn’t contractually have to do that. I’m very happy with the final cover!

What's something you learned from the process that surprised you?

I did not expect the sheer anxiety of being a debut author. Everything is new and frightening. The process feels surreal and fragile, and the closing of Egmont USA certainly didn’t help.\

You can read all the articles about being a debut author and still not know what to expect. Every author’s experience is unique and filled with bizarre questions. You feel lucky to be along for a ride, so you worry about a lot about screwing it up.

How much of your own marketing do you?  

I try to stick to marketing ideas I enjoy doing. I work hard to give excellent school visits that showcase my experience with kids. I wrote and recorded an original soundtrack called “Songs for Sam(antha)” that’s free if you preorder I AM DRUMS. I have a website and blog where I blog anywhere from once a month to every day when I’m doing a special feature.

Worrying about marketing is a great way to panic. That’s not to say it isn’t useful, but I’ve been in three debut author groups and they’ve taught me that writers have little control over how their book sells. 

I’m also on Twitter,  Facebook and Instagram.

When do you build your platform? After an agent? Or should you be working before?

For fiction it’s most important to keep writing. Building a platform is a great way to distract yourself from the job you’re actually supposed to do.

Agents and editors fall in love with your writing voice, not your marketing plan. You can worry about your platform after you’ve landed a book deal.

Do you think social media helps build your readership?

Social media is fun, but plenty of authors sell a ton of books without sending a single tweet. In middle grade, where our readership isn’t as likely to be on social media, it’s more important (and more fun) to use those platforms for connecting with other authors and people who love books.

Casey Lyall On Taking The Time To Revise

I'm lucky (or cunning) enough to have lured yet another successful writer over to my blog for an SAT- Successful Author Talk. SAT authors have conquered the query, slain the synopsis and attained the pinnacle of published. How'd they do it? Let's ask 'em!

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Today's guest for the SAT (Successful Author Talk) is Casey Lyall, debut author of the MG novel HOWARD WALLACE, P.I., coming September 6 from Sterling Children's Books. Casey (5’4”, brown hair, blue eyes, no known aliases) is a middle grade writer from Southwestern Ontario. She works at her local library where she runs a number of teen groups and waits for management to discover they’re actually paying her to have fun. When she’s not writing, Casey loves to bake, watch an “unhealthy” amount of movies and television, and of course, read.

Are you a Planner or Pantster?

I’m definitely a planner. The plan is fluid and ends up changing as I go along, but I like to have a frame to work with. It’s like building a house: I like to know how many rooms there’ll be before I start playing with colour swatches.

How long does it typically take you to write a novel, start to finish?

The first one took a few months. The second one…longer. Like,‘trying to murderize me’ longer.

Do you work on one project at a time, or are you a multi tasker?

Generally one project at a time, but I keep notes for other projects as I go along. Sometimes an idea hits me when my brain is busy with the current project and I have to write it down so I don’t lose it.

Did you have to overcome any fears that first time you sat down to write?

Not really because I’ve always loved writing. That part felt natural. The fear came more with the after-writing stuff: querying, revising for an agent, submission, revising for an editor, etc. As the stakes got bigger, my fear of messing things up increased. But so far it’s working out okay!

How many trunked books did you have before you were agented?

One delightful (to me) picture book that maybe I’ll revisit someday. I’ve learned a lot since then so it might be fun to go back and noodle with it.

Have you ever quit on an ms, and how did you know it was time?

I haven’t quit on a book yet. My second book has been an interesting process because I had a whole different plot line originally. I spun my wheels for a while before realizing it wasn’t working. I couldn’t progress beyond the first few chapters. Once I figured out what was wrong, I scrapped a bunch of it, melded the rest with another plot idea I had, and things improved from there.

Who is your agent and how did you get that "Yes!" out of them?  

My agent is the lovely Molly Ker Hawn of the Bent Agency and we found each other through the traditional querying process. I read a few interviews with her and felt like she’d be a great match for me so I sent a query. She requested a full requested a full which was mondo exciting. I ended up with a few offers, but I ultimately signed with Molly because we clicked so well.

How long did you query before landing your agent? 

I did two rounds of querying over a period of about a year. After the first round, I did some serious revision based on feedback from agents and then queried again about six months later. Taking that time to revise made all the difference.

Any advice to aspiring writers out there on conquering query hell?

Build your support group. No one is going to understand what you’re going through like another writer will. And giving support to others is just as important as receiving it. There’s nothing like talking an author friend out of a stress spiral to realize that you’re not alone in this sea of feels. Keep learning, keep improving, keep making friends. That’s what will keep you sane.

How much input do you have on cover art?

My publisher was very open to my input. We talked a lot about the cover and I love what we ended up with.

What's something you learned from the process that surprised you?

Oh, man, just how intricate the whole process of making a book is. Getting to see all the behind the scenes work that goes on has totally blown my mind. It’s such a group effort and it’s made the whole process, if possible, even more fun.

How much of your own marketing do you?  

I’ve received a ton of support from my publisher, but I try to make sure I’m putting in my own effort as well. I blog with a group of awesome authors on Tumblr. We’re called Kick-Butt Kidlit. I love working on a group blog because it takes a lot of the pressure off. Instead of coming up with new content every week, I only have to post once a month. It makes my life easier. I also have a Facebook page and a Twitter account along with a website. I’ve got some really exciting promotional plans for when my book releases so more on that to come!

When do you build your platform? After an agent? Or should you be working before?

I don’t think anyone should ever feel pressure to build a platform. If you’re not comfortable with social media, don’t engage in it. Your energy is going to be put to better use when you channel it into something you enjoy and gives you energy in return.

That being said, I think you can dive in at any time. There are so many different outlets available. Take your time and figure out which medium works best for you. I personally love Twitter. It’s fun and it’s quick. Other people love Instagram and SnapChat. If you’re happy and comfortable with the site you’re using, that will come through in the content you produce.

Do you think social media helps build your readership?

I think it does if you’re using it properly. Tying back to the previous question – if you’re genuine in your posts and having fun getting to know people online; that will be reflected in your readership. People who use social media to blast spam at their followers will never see a result from that. Think of it as an investment. You have to put in quality in order to see any kind of return. I’ve met some great people online. They provide me with support and encouragement, but I’ve also had the chance to learn about them. For me, it’s all about the community. (So find me on Twitter because I like making new friends!)

Successful Author Talk with Tracy Edward Wymer & The 100 Queries That Came First

I'm lucky (or cunning) enough to have lured yet another successful writer over to my blog for an SAT- Successful Author Talk. SAT authors have conquered the query, slain the synopsis and attained the pinnacle of published. How'd they do it? Let's ask 'em!

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Today's guest for the SAT is Tracy Edward Wymer, a member of the Class of 2k16 whose MG novel, SOAR releases July 5th from Aladdin / Simon & Schuster.

Are you a Planner or Pantster?

I’m both, or in between. I plan out with running lists or chapter titles, which I call a “Set List.” However, I don’t do too much planning. Finding out what happens next is what brings me back to every story. 

How long does it typically take you to write a novel, start to finish?

This can vary dramatically. It can take two years, it can take 6 months. I typically take longer than most of my peers, from what I can tell. 

Do you work on one project at a time, or are you a multi tasker?

I’m a multi-tasker. I’m usually working on a couple of projects; however, I tend to research for one project while drafting another. Drafting two novels at once doesn’t seem to work for me. 

Did you have to overcome any fears that first time you sat down to write?

Not really. I’ve been writing since high school. Back then, I wrote poetry about famous athletes. Yeah, it was terrible. But I was writing and it felt good, even back then. 

How many trunked books did you have before you were agented?

I self-published a book called The Color of Bones. I then found an agent with my next book, which came to be known eventually as Soar.

Have you ever quit on an ms, and how did you know it was time?

I have several half-baked manuscripts. I know it’s time when I stop thinking about it. That’s my writer brain telling me to move on. If a story captures me completely, you can find me walking around in a fog, which is then not good for my other professional life. 

Who is your agent and how did you get that "Yes!" out of them? 

My agent is John Rudolph of DGLM. I sent a query to him for a novel called Bird Nerd. He loved it and I signed with him. We worked on the book for at least six months, then he submitted it to editors. We received two rounds of rejections. I then changed the title to Might Fly Away, right before the third and final round of submissions. I had reservations about Bird Nerd as the title, because the story was more “literary” than the title suggested. This time, the novel sold to Aladdin/S&S. Once the book sold, with the Aladdin team’s guidance, we changed the title again, this time to Soar.   

How long did you query before landing your agent?  

I sent over 100 queries for The Color of Bones. I had a lot of requests for my full manuscript, but no one ever wanted to represent me or that book. With Soar, I also sent at least 50 queries before an agent loved it. 

Any advice to aspiring writers out there on conquering query hell?

Keep querying. It’s a numbers game. Liking a story, or book, is one of the most subjective ideas on the planet. There’s the premise, the writing, the characters, the setting. There are so many moving parts, readers are bound to not like something about your story. Be persistent, but always remain professional. Don’t query the same agent with the same project more than once. That’s just being unprofessional. 

How did that feel, the first time you saw your book for sale?

When strangers read your book, it is just that… a strange feeling. As far as seeing your book for sale, it’s an out of body experience, one I’ll probably never get used to. 

How much input do you have on cover art?

I asked my editor to not put a kid on the front cover. I’m not a fan of cartoony looking kids on covers. Now, silhouettes of kids on book covers are all the rage. I’m so happy that Brian (Biggs) and the Aladdin team created something different, a kid’s shadow, which also communicates a meaningful action. 

What's something you learned from the process that surprised you?

It takes a long time. Longer than you will ever think. 

How much of your own marketing do you?  

I connect with educators and librarians all the time. They are my people. I love talking books with teachers. I have a website and a Twitter account. 

When do you build your platform? After an agent? Or should you be working before?

You should be connecting with people professionally from day one. Don’t wait until you’re published. Entrench yourself in the writing and book communities. It will pay off when the time comes. 

Do you think social media helps build your readership?

Yes. Educators and book lovers are all over social media. You just have to spend time finding them. Then once you find them, you have reach out and make connections with people. Social media connects everyone, make it work in your favor. And always say positive. If you don’t have anything positive to say, bite your tongue.