Katherine Locke On Setting Hard Deadlines - And Holding Yourself To Them

Welcome to the SNOB - Second Novel Ominipresent Blues. Whether you’re under contract or trying to snag another deal, you’re a professional now, with the pressures of a published novelist compounded with the still-present nagging self-doubt of the noobie. How to deal?

Today's guest for the SNOB is Katherine Locke, author of THE GIRL WITH THE RED BALLOON and the forthcoming companion. She writes about what she cannot do: time-travel, magic, and espionage. Katherine not-so-secretly believes most YA stories are fairy tales and lives with two good cats, two bad cats, and one overly enthusiastic dog.

Is it hard to leave behind the first novel and focus on the second?

I only just turned in Book 2 so this is all fresh in my mind! It wasn’t that hard to leave behind the first novel and focus on the second because while I was still working on my first book with my editor, I’d written it in 2014, three years ago. I am not even sure I thoroughly remember that process. But it was hard to leave behind the feel of the first book. I had it stuck in my head that my second book (same world, different characters—more of a companion book) needed to have the same structure, voice and feel of the first book. That had me all sorts of stuck for several months.

At what point do you start diverting your energies from promoting your debut and writing / polishing / editing your second?

I turned in my second book between BEA/Bookcon and ALA Annual, so it was a little bit of a balance this spring. But my first book was through copy-edits when I started drafting the second book. I only had to pause to do proofreads. I found that balancing drafting and marketing/editing isn’t difficult for me, but I really can’t draft two different books at the same time. I like to have one in brainstorm stage, one in drafting stage, and one in editing/copyedits stage.

Your first book landed an agent and an editor, and hopefully some fans. Who are you writing the second one for? Them, or yourself?

I was very leery of feeling like my second book had been written for someone else. That’d happened before, and I didn’t want it to happen again. At the same time, I also always pick something to teach myself with each new book. And for my second book, I decided I wanted to learn how to write a tighter plot, something with more of a thriller feel. So I had to balance the desire to write something outside my wheelhouse with the desire to write something that also felt like a Katherine book.
As for the part where I inevitably have more cooks in the kitchen for this book, when I needed to make changes to the book, away from the proposal my editor had approved, she and my agent were very supportive. They both wanted me to write the book I could and wanted to write. I added a new point of view, changed the main arc and added another plotline for that new POV. They weren’t insubstantial changes. I should have known that was coming, though, because I did the same thing between drafts one and two of book one. In the end, I really felt like the book I turned in was my book, not for anyone else. But I sure hope other people enjoy it!

Is there a new balance of time management to address once you’re a professional author?

Definitely. I should have written Book 2 over the winter after the proposal was approved. But I was stuck between rage and despair after November and had a hard time getting going. Then my deadline moved up several months (the worst direction for a deadline to move) which turned into a blessing in disguise. I am extremely motivated by external deadlines. I wrote and revised my second book four times in 100 days.

That’s not my ideal schedule, but it was the one I had to work with, and that made me very efficient. I wrote every night, most mornings and 5-8 hours a day each weekend day (I have a dayjob, so sadly, I can’t write all day.) I used all the tricks in the book (blocking the internet, headphones, and using whatever process worked for the book) to get it done. Because there wasn’t an option not to get it done.

Like I said, though I’m very good at sitting down and doing the work when I need to, I have to set hard deadlines for myself and treat them as real deadlines. For my book 2, I took my editor’s deadline and worked backward from that to set my own first draft deadline. Friends, including some writer friends, would say, “Well, it’s not a real deadline. That one’s in June.” Except my deadline for the first draft to be done April 1st was just as real as that one, because otherwise I wouldn’t make my June deadline. I have to treat my own personal deadlines as real and as serious as any deadline imposed by a contract, editor, or agent.

What did you do differently the second time around, with the perspective of a published author?

I would have started Book 2 earlier. But, again, there were external world events and I know I wasn’t the only one derailed by those. But I would have started Book 2 earlier because that pace wasn’t my preferred pace. I should have also asked for phone calls about Book 2’s proposal with my editor prior to the first proposal that I eventually threw out the window. I think I was in the mindset that I’d mess her up when she was working on Book 1. I think talking it out with her would have solved my plot, POV and structural problems much faster and I would have written it with fewer tears. Or maybe not. I guess I’ll find out next time!

Geoffrey Girard On Getting YA Into The Hands Of The Audience

Welcome to the SNOB - Second Novel Ominipresent Blues. Whether you’re under contract or trying to snag another deal, you’re a professional now, with the pressures of a published novelist compounded with the still-present nagging self-doubt of the noobie. How to deal?

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Today's guest for the SNOB is fellow Ohioan, Geoffrey Girard, who writes thrillers, historicals, and dark speculative fiction. Simon and Schuster published two Girard novels simultaneously in 2013: CAIN'S BLOOD, a techno thriller, and PROJECT CAIN, a companion novel for teen/YA readers which was nominated for a Bram Stoker award for "Superior Achievement in a Young Adult Novel."

Girard's short fiction has appeared in several best-selling anthologies and magazines, including Writers of the Future (a 2003 winner), Prime Codex, Aoife's Kiss, The Willows, Murky Depths, Apex Horror & Science Fiction Digest, and the Stoker-nominated Dark Faith anthology.

His newest, TRUTHERS, releases today from CarolRhoda!

Is it hard to leave behind the first novel and focus on the second?

By the time the two CAIN books (PROJECT CAIN and CAIN’S BLOOD) were off to the publisher, I was already reading a dozen-plus books about 9/11 and all the conspiracy stuff and noodling over the characters and plot of what would become TRUTHERS. In short order, I had Katie and her dilemma of trying to figure out if dad is truly crazy (claiming she’s not his daughter but, rather, some kind of living proof to the “Inside-Job” 9/11 conspiracy) or if, possibly, he may know something about the truth of what happened that day. So, it was very easy to give myself over to that new world/story. Haven’t read PROJECT CAIN or CAIN’S BLOOD, or even thought about them – beyond promotional activities – since the last draft.

What’s proven fun/interesting, however, is how other people make it hard to leave behind the first novel. Readers and publishers and agents and friends, etc. ALL assume I’m totally into serial killers (the CAIN books are about famous serial killers) and that’s what they want to talk about at book events, or they’ll send me news links and pass on new books to read, etc. But, I haven’t given serial killers a real thought since I turned in those books five years ago. Since then, I’ve written about 9/11, eugenics, Scottish ghosts, WW2, and I’m now working on a nonfiction book set in feudal Japan. There’s other stuff already in my head, replacing the old.

I expect much of this year – the “TRUTHERS Year” – will be spent talking about 9/11 and various conspiracy theories, and while I’ll happily talk about all that with anyone who wants, I’ve secretly already moved on to feudal Japan. To be clear: it’s über cool when forensic psychologists and criminologists or old neighbors of the Dahmer family find me at book fairs and want to talk – that’s why you write! But, when we’re talking, for me, it’s like talking about old high school stories or, maybe, an ex-girlfriend. Fondly, some fun nostalgia, but not what’s driving/challenging me right now.

At what point do you start diverting your energies from promoting your debut to writing / polishing / editing your second?

They happen simultaneously. I’d started writing/editing “next” books in the months leading up to the first books coming out and during the release, etc. Promotional stuff, when it has/had to be done, I mostly do/did at night while watching TV or a quick warmup exercise prior to writing. (For instance, I’m answering these questions for 15 minutes before tackling an outline for a new book I’ve got to get done.) I’ve also hired a virtual assistant to handle a lot of the nuts and bolts part of promotion (events, blog tours, school visits, contests, etc.). Part of what I’ve learned is knowing which “energies” should, or can, be diverted/delegated to others. Writing and editing and research is what I’m most interested in, and where I’m of most value. It’s a win-win. With every new project and experience, writers get a better idea of what they’re good at, what’s important artistically and professionally, etc. That’s different for each of us, and part of the fun is figuring out who you are as an artist/person; what matters to you. For instance, I most prefer school visits or working face-to-face with writers getting started in their career/craft. That’s the teacher in me. Social media, on the other hand, I’m no good at, don’t like, and do only enough to prove I exist in the universe. As for promotion in general, and its worth, I know authors who are simply amazing at it (they do everything you’re “supposed to”) and sell nothing and authors who suck at it and sell a ton. What’s that tell you? In any case, I am looking forward to getting out and talking about TRUTHERS this fall.

Your first book landed an agent and an editor, and hopefully some fans. Who are you writing the second one for? Them, or yourself?

My YA novels, I’m still writing for my own students. PROJECT CAIN is an intro to serial killers. TRUTHERS is an intro to 9/11 and conspiracy theories. I know teens and young adults pretty well (spend most of my waking hours with them as a teacher) and have built a career around being able to make stuff interesting for them – whether my own sons, my students, or when presenting at some other high school or college or book event. That’s my audience. Writing YA fiction, in particular, can be somewhat difficult/frustrating because before you can get these books into the hands of the intended audience (who you’re really writing for), you first have to first get past gatekeepers – agents, editors, publishers, reviewers. All adults. Mostly well-educated “literary type” adults who have ideas about YA fiction that don’t necessarily always match what I’m finding success with 8 hours a day.  [NOT to be confused with librarians, who are fellow teachers and spend all day with young adults also]. I got a lot of “9/11? Too soon!” from many adults, when I was writing for some readers who literally weren’t alive when it happened. My goal was a balanced book that would intro young-adult readers to 9/11 and our escalating conspiracy culture, and it was quite gratifying when Publishers Weekly and the School Library Journal claimed TRUTHERS achieved that. Looking forward to seeing what YA readers think!

Is there a new balance of time management to address once you’re a professional author?

For sure, I’m more focused now. CAIN’S BLOOD took me a year to write. MARY ROSE (a thriller/ghost novel coming out this fall) took four months; and really less than three but I don’t want you to think it was rushed, so we’ll say four. I carved out additional time to write early morning I’d never used before which added 10-14 hours of writing a week. And on top of my usual weekend afternoon writing, I got quite serious at night often, skipping bad TV to head upstairs early and finish a chapter. As noted above, I also brought on some help to take care of the stuff I have no interest in. And THAT, is true time management.

What did you do differently the second time around, with the perspective of a published author?

Not making the mistake of waiting around this time to get the third book moving; or waiting for others to beg me for another book. Do that, and four years can go by in a hurry. When the CAIN books came out, I was like: Cool, well now Simon & Schuster will love my next thriller idea for adults and my next YA idea and I’ll publish there for the next twenty years. Ermm, OR: my agent will quit his agency (putting me in limbo for almost 6 months), both of my editors will move on to other companies (one leaving publishing completely!), the publisher who gave me a huge deal and specifically urged “get that second book done!” departs publishing without warning. Suddenly I was in a room of strangers, including “my” editor who told me she “didn’t like thrillers.” Now, thinking back, it’s funny. Four years ago, I was all: Ohhh, shit…

NY publishing can be a carousel and also super slow at the same time. I recently “made a deal” three months ago – no contract yet, and don’t expect a dime for another 3-4 months; the book won’t come out for two years. To that point, you – and you alone – gotta stay on top of your career and what’s up next. Everyone else is too busy, and moving at a different pace, and there are 10,000 writers ready to take your spot if that’s a problem. So. I’ve now got two books coming out in 2017 – TRUTHERS and this creepy paranormal/suspense novel: MARY ROSE. But am banging the drum almost daily to get the next three, four, five books lined up. The first time, I filled the huge gap of time between books with getting an MFA and putting out my debut short story collection. Which ain’t shabby, but still feel I wasted some creative years. This time out, I’m more focused on lining up the next deal and am borderline obnoxious (very dog-on-a-bone) about it with my agents and publishers. My aim being that a third YA comes out in 2018 or early 2019 – which sounds like ages from now but a mere blink in traditional publishing. Doesn’t mean it’ll happen, but it won’t be for lack of trying on my part.

Rosalyn Eves On Writing Smarter For Book Two

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Published authors face a new set of pressures, whether you’re under contract or trying to snag another deal, you’re a professional now, with the pressures of a published novelist compounded with the still-present nagging self-doubt of the noobie. How to deal? With this in mind I created the SNOB (Second Novel Omnipresent Blues). Today's guest for the SNOB is Rosalyn Eves, author of the well-received fantasy BLOOD ROSE REBELLION.

Is it hard to leave behind the first novel and focus on the second?

In my case, the second book is a continuation of the first, since Blood Rose Rebellion sold as a trilogy. But that brings with it its own set of challenges! It took me a while to figure out why book two was so hard to write—essentially, book 2 in a trilogy is the mucky middle. The WHOLE book is the middle. The challenge for me was to figure out a way to give the book its own arc, with some kind of resolution, while still leaving things open-ended enough for book three.

It was nice to come back to a familiar world, at least—most of the character development and world-building work happened with the first book. 

At what point do you start diverting your energies from promoting your debut and writing / polishing / editing your second?

I’m still trying to figure this out! Mostly my priorities are driven by deadlines. When I have edits due on book two, it takes priority. As soon as my edits are in, I shift my focus to catching up on the promotional stuff I need to do (like writing this post!). The harder thing right now is to find time to draft book three—editing book two and promoting are absorbing a lot of time. 

Your first book landed an agent and an editor, and hopefully some fans. Who are you writing the second one for? Them, or yourself?

The first book I definitely wrote for myself, but the second book was in many ways harder to write because of all the different possible audiences. I’d been warned that writing a book under contract was hard, but I still wasn’t prepared for how difficult it was. For the first little while, every time I sat down to draft, a voice in my head asked: is this worth the money your publisher wants to pay you for it? And of course, being a first draft, it never was. 

I’m also writing with readers in mind: what kinds of things have readers responded positively to in the first book? How can I include more of the same while also telling a different story? But I have to be careful how much I do this—I tend to want to make everyone happy, and it’s impossible for any one story to do that. Sometimes even good reviews can mess with my head, as when a reader says they hope to see more of something in the next book, and then I start asking myself: do I have enough of that element? Should there be more? I have to balance the needs of my audience against the needs of the story—what choices serve the story best?

Is there a new balance of time management to address once you’re a professional author? 

As I said above, I’m still trying to figure the balance out. Interacting with readers and doing book promotion are still pretty new to me, and it’s tempting sometimes to sink all my time into those, especially when the writing is hard and I’m looking to procrastinate. (And interacting with readers is much more fun than slogging through a draft.) I think for me it’s important to set boundaries on myself and my time—to say I have x amount of time for promoting today and stick to that, or none of the writing gets done. 

What did you do differently the second time around, with the perspective of a published author?

I think I’ve been writing smarter. I hit a snag about 75K into book two that I could not resolve. Instead of just plowing through and thinking, “I’ll fix this in revisions,” I took some time away from the story and replotted it. I think having a more structure as I wrote meant that I didn’t waste as much time following plot bunnies—and it gave me more time for revising before submitting to my editor, who was impressed with how polished it was for a first draft—until I told her it wasn’t actually a first draft.

One thing that I’m finding a lot of authors struggle with in the second book is having to turn in a fairly rough draft. When the editor buys the first book, it’s been polished and revised multiple times. But with books under contract, particularly second books in a series, there often isn’t the time for that kind of revision and polish. It’s hard to get over the gap between what the first book looked like when the editor saw it and what the second book looks like. I know editors are used to it, but a big part of me cringed when I hit send on my draft (but I also didn’t want to waste time polishing it if my editor hated it and wanted me to rewrite it—which has happened to several authors I know).