Tyrell Johnson on Inspiration, Jumping out of Moving Vehicles, and Writing with a Donkey

Inspiration is a funny thing. It can come to us like a lightning bolt, through the lyrics of a song, or in the fog of a dream. Ask any writer where their stories come from and you’ll get a myriad of answers, and in that vein I created the WHAT (What the Hell Are you Thinking?) interview. 

Today’s guest for the WHAT is Tyrell Johnson, author of The Lost Kings, a riveting psychological thriller with a killer twist about a woman forced to confront the darkest moment in her childhood in order to move on from her past and open her heart to love.

Ideas for our books can come from just about anywhere, and sometimes even we can’t pinpoint exactly how or why. Did you have a specific origin point for your book?

Like you said, the origins of my writing are often quite nebulous. This time, however, there was a bit of an inspiration. It was during the pandemic, my wife and I were stuck at home with three kids (think Lord of the Flies), and I didn’t know what to write next. She told me she had nothing good to read and to just write a book for her. So, in a way, I did. She likes complicated characters, mystery, and a touch of romance. But also, I wanted to write about trauma because it felt like the world was going through (and still is!) a collective case of WTF is going on? Between those two things, somehow Jeanie King and The Lost Kings was born.

Once the original concept existed, how did you build a plot around it?

Once I have the character fairly set in stone and a basic idea of their backstory, I just continue to put them in situations of drama and see how they react. From there, the novel starts to write itself.

Have you ever had the plot firmly in place, only to find it changing as the story moved from your mind to paper? 

Yes. This is one of the more fun and surprising things about writing fiction. I had a professor in college tell me once that the brain of a writer and the brain of a schizophrenic aren’t that dissimilar. You have to write like a schizophrenic sometimes, like you hear voices, contain multitudes, like your own characters can surprise you. I remember having a nice little ending planned out for one of my characters, only to have them resist so hard, they literally jumped out of a moving vehicle. It was kind of fun to write actually.

Do story ideas come to you often, or is fresh material hard to come by? 

I’d say they come to me fairly often, but whether or not they make it through my screening process and excite me enough to write is another story. I have to be pretty passionate about the project I’m working on, otherwise my boredom comes out in the writing.

How do you choose which story to write next, if you’ve got more than one percolating? 

Often, I’ll write a few pages and see which one takes off.  But it’s very much a feeling. If a story reaches a point of development in my head and begins to weigh on me, begging to be written, I can’t help but start putting words down on paper.

I have 6 cats and a Dalmatian (seriously, check my Instagram feed) and I usually have at least one or two snuggling with me when I write. Do you have a writing buddy, or do you find it distracting?

At one point in my life, I had a husky, a miniature horse, and a donkey as my writing buddies (no joke), but nowadays, it’s only the husky and the occasional small human that comes in to say hi.

Tyrell Johnson is a father, writer, and editor. His post-apocalyptic novel The Wolves of Winter (Scribner 2018) was an international bestseller. Originally from Bellingham Washington, he now lives in Kelowna British Columbia.

Jesmeen Kaur Deo on Writing About Female Body Hair Stigma

Inspiration is a funny thing. It can come to us like a lightning bolt, through the lyrics of a song, or in the fog of a dream. Ask any writer where their stories come from and you’ll get a myriad of answers, and in that vein I created the WHAT (What the Hell Are you Thinking?) interview.

Today’s guest for the WHAT is Jesmeen Kaur Deo, author of TJ Powar Has Something to Prove, a charming rom-com about high school debater who—after becoming the subject of an ugly meme—makes a resolution to stop shaving, plucking, and waxing, and prove that she can be her hairy self and still be beautiful

Ideas for our books can come from just about anywhere, and sometimes even we can’t pinpoint exactly how or why. Did you have a specific origin point for your book?

I do remember the idea to write a book about body hair stigma came to me all at once. But I don't remember exactly how, or what I was thinking at the time. I think it had something to do with discussions I'd been having with a friend about how ugly women are rarely afforded love stories. That, and the culmination of my teen years wondering how all these female YA protagonists never seemed to care about or mention their body hair at all, were big catalysts for this book.

Once the original concept existed, how did you build a plot around it?

I'd always wanted to write a story about high school debate, but hadn't found the right angle for it until the body hair stigma idea came to me. I wondered if the two concepts could co-exist in the same story. The more I thought about it, the more it made sense. And so debate became the structural basis for the plot. From an emotional standpoint, I knew where I wanted TJ to start and where she should end up; a lot of the main beats of the story got filled in with debate related things!

Have you ever had the plot firmly in place, only to find it changing as the story moved from your mind to paper?

Many times! The bones of this book didn't change from what I wanted it to be, although it grew more nuanced and refined as time went on. But other stories I've written for sure have changed a lot. Sometimes the vision in your head doesn't translate well on the page because there are so many things you're forced to think through when actually writing it down! And sometimes I start out with a vision but quickly realize I'm not passionate enough about it. That it needs something else, which I can only figure out by writing through it.

Do story ideas come to you often, or is fresh material hard to come by?

Very hard to come by. I'm not one of those amazing authors who can develop new ideas at the drop of a hat. If I'm lucky, I get 1-2 new book ideas a year. But I'm also a slow writer, so it's fine!

How do you choose which story to write next, if you’ve got more than one percolating?

Part of it is my mood and what's going on in my life at the moment. For example, sometimes I need to write something light when life is challenging (such was the case with TJ, actually), and other times I want to write something heavy precisely because life is challenging and it's cathartic. Another factor in my decision making is strategy. I look at what's going on in traditional publishing, what's selling, what's hot right now, and then look at my WIPs and try to figure out which one might have the best shot at getting published in the current climate. I would try to prioritize that one. But sometimes, I can't control it. If my heart is set on a particular story, and just that one thing, then strategy be damned. I will chase that story that speaks to me.

I have 6 cats and a Dalmatian (seriously, check my Instagram feed) and I usually have at least one or two snuggling with me when I write. Do you have a writing buddy, or do you find it distracting?

That sounds adorable! I don't have any pets, so I don't know whether I'd find them distracting. I do know I don't like writing with other people. I need it to just be me and the story. Some writers find that lonely, and I completely get why. But I love it!

Jesmeen Kaur Deo grew up in northern British Columbia, where she spent most of her childhood daydreaming. She loves books that can make her laugh and tug at her heartstrings in the same paragraph. When not wrapped up in stories, she can be found biking, playing the harmonium, or struggling to open jars. TJ Powar Has Something to Prove is her debut novel.

Kristina Forest On Finding Inspiration Through Daydreams

Inspiration is a funny thing. It can come to us like a lightning bolt, through the lyrics of a song, or in the fog of a dream. Ask any writer where their stories come from and you’ll get a myriad of answers, and in that vein I created the WHAT (What the Hell Are you Thinking?) interview. 

Today’s guest for the WHAT is Kristina Forest, the author of Zyla & Kai a fresh love story about the will they, won't they—and why can't they—of first love.

Ideas for our books can come from just about anywhere, and sometimes even we can’t pinpoint exactly how or why. Did you have a specific origin point for your book?

Starting points for my ideas often come to me while I'm sleeping or daydreaming. One day I pictured a boy and a girl waiting at a bus station, and I just kind of knew that they were sneaking away. And that was it--I sat on the idea for a while. Then a few months later I saw the movie, Moonrise Kingdom about two kids who run away together, leaving everyone they know confused about their actions and whereabouts. I thought it was a uniquely structured movie. And then I remembered those two characters I'd thought about who were running away too. That's where the idea for Zyla & Kai really bloomed. 

Once the original concept existed, how did you build a plot around it?

It really depends on the book. Sometimes an idea begins with a concept, or sometimes it begins with a vibe between two characters and I build the plot around the two of them. My philosophy is that character informs plot. So I might have an idea, like a boy and girl run away together. But then I have to go back and build out the characters to discover why they'd run away together. Where are they running away to? What influenced their decision? Why do they like each other? How do they relate to each other? Or maybe, what's keeping them apart? 

Have you ever had the plot firmly in place, only to find it changing as the story moved from your mind to paper? 

In small ways. Sometimes certain aspects about a character will change and that will therefore affect how they react to certain situations in the plot. But I'm such a hardcore outliner that once my plot is in place it kind of stays that way for the most part while working on the first draft. But after I've finished the first draft and start revising, I do move things around when needed or when suggested by my editor! 

Do story ideas come to you often, or is fresh material hard to come by?

New ideas come to me often, thankfully! 

How do you choose which story to write next, if you’ve got more than one percolating?

I write whichever books feels the most developed at the time, or whichever book I feel the most ready to write. Sometimes an idea needs a little more time in the oven and I don't like to force things to come together. 

I have 6 cats and a Dalmatian (seriously, check my Instagram feed) and I usually have at least one or two snuggling with me when I write. Do you have a writing buddy, or do you find it distracting? 

I'm so jealous of you and your 6 cats! I do have a few writing buddies. We used to write together in cafes, but now we're all living in different parts of the country so we write together virtually and it's very nice and productive! Writing can be such a solitary job, so creating community makes things easier.

Kristina Forest is an author of romance books for young adults. Her novels include I Wanna Be Where You Are, Now That I've Found You and Zyla & Kai. She earned her MFA in Creative Writing at The New School, and she can often be found rearranging her bookshelf.